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Old 01-17-2022, 02:44 AM   #1
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Exclamation Why does stalking and harassment continue to be tolerated at LQ?


I have been, and still am, being stalked at LQ by the same member JSB/jsbjsb002 and ever since December 2020. I have reported this numerous times now, but this same member continues to stalk me here at LQ. In addition to reporting it via the Report button, I've also discussed this with Jeremy directly numerous times now to no avail. There is a VERY clear pattern of this same behaviour from this same member, that's been once again happening since December 2020 (ever since they joined this forum) - one only needs to look at their posting history to see this.

This behaviour meets the definition of both "stalking" and "cyberstalking", and stalking in general is in fact a criminal offence in both the country I live in, as well as the USA where I believe this site is hosted.

Jeremy explicitly said that "following other members around the forum" would result in a ban for this same member in another thread about this very same issue, but yet they are still able to post, and therefore no ban has yet been issued to them to date. Both posts I've made in the technical forums since coming back have been immediately followed by posts from JSB/jsbjsb002 claiming to be "my friend" combined with their other posts directed at myself - not to mention the timing of them - clearly show a VERY clear pattern once again, that couldn't be clearer. This is clearly cyberstalking, it's right there for you to see in black and white Jeremy - so no need to just take my word for it - have a look at their posting history for yourself, in fact I encourage you to do just that.

I believe I've been more than patient enough to date about this same issue. I do not believe I should have to put up with being clearly stalked here anymore than anyone else here should have to put up with it. It's once again not only not right, it's in fact illegal. I do not care what their reasons are for this behaviour towards myself, it needs to stop. If they are really serious about liking my posts (which I have to say seems extremely unlikely to me), then there are far better ways one could show that. One example being, they could give reputation, they could cite the particular post(s) of mine that's helped them in some way and explain how they helped them - which would also benefit future readers to know which post(s) are most likely to help them in some way. The behaviour of the same member in question to date has been nothing but cowardly, and sick, and ***not*** the way any sane or civilized person behaves.

I would also like to make it very clear that; I do *not* know this person, I've *never* met this person, and have *never* had anything to do with this person, and they are most certainly *NOT* "my friend". So their claim here and here that we are friends is completely and utterly **FALSE**.

As I've said to you privately Jeremy, and I'll say it publicly, as I've been advised to make it clear to the offender (JSB/jsbjsb002 in this case) that they are to ***STOP stalking and harassing me immediately***, and if they persist with this behaviour towards myself; I will be filing an official complaint with the relevant government body, which will most likely be the police. Since this site is not hosted in my country, and if required, the complaint will be made to the relevant US government body. I'm not going to warn the offender again either, and I'm very serious about that. And I'm not going to just put up with it and ignore it, as I once again should not have to, period.

The purpose of this thread is to make my position crystal clear to the offender, and make it clear that I have **no connection** with the offender in this case that I'm aware of, other than being their victim/target - I'm not looking for people's "thoughts" on this matter, as it's patently obvious what is going on here.

While I'm here, and since this is the Suggestions & Feedback forum for LQ; I'd suggest you Jeremy, add something to the LQ rules about cyberstalking and the fact it isn't acceptable (or at least shouldn't be acceptable, regardless of the reasons for it on the part of the perpetrator).

So I ask you Jeremy to follow through with your own words and ban this member so I can participate here WITHOUT the harassment and stalking, and in peace. If you still fail to deal with this properly (and as you should have done in the first place, months ago now), then while I won't enjoy having to go elsewhere for help with this matter, you will leave me with no other option in that case. I would REALLY prefer this be properly dealt with by yourself Jeremy and that nobody else need to be involved.

Thank you.
 
Old 01-17-2022, 02:55 AM   #2
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I think any court would require some thread specifics, such as URLs to examples of what you claim to constitute stalking.
 
Old 01-17-2022, 02:59 AM   #3
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I think any court would require some thread specifics, such as URLs to examples of what you claim to constitute stalking.
No problem whatsoever - also quite happy to turn over any emails or PM's to Jeremy about it as well. Whatever they want/need.

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Old 01-17-2022, 06:46 AM   #4
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"JSB" reappeared recently, just after you did, to specifically reply to you after being offline since September. So, you reappear after several months then "JSB" reappears specifically to reply to you.

Yes, it's very obvious what's going on, but the main problem here is that you get riled up and make threads like this - which are troll fuel. You're providing what he wants. This would be better as private messaging / email directly to Jeremy.

If he gets banned, he'll most likely just come back with another account for some more sport. In fact, it's likely that he already has another account, or accounts, here anyway.
 
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Old 01-17-2022, 06:58 AM   #5
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I've repeatedly PM'd and emailed Jeremy ever since they joined, for what were very obvious reasons, including reporting it via the Report button. But Jeremy just blows me off and downplays it every single time. So enough is enough, either Jeremy finally acts and does what he should have done in the first place, or I make an official complaint elsewhere.

While I agree with the rest of what you have said, these sorts of cowards never stop unless people stand up to them. And if I'm not the target, someone else will be, and it's pretty clear that, and as you point out, they have not only been waiting for me and monitoring the forum for any posts from me, they are not going to stop if nobody says anything. And as I said above, it's also pretty clear that Jeremy has done little to nothing about it to date - other than ban me temporary for standing up to them. So again, enough is enough - Jeremy wouldn't accept it if it was being done to him, so why should anyone else?

But in any case, glad I'm not the only one that can see what's going on here, so thanks for your post...
 
Old 01-17-2022, 10:59 AM   #6
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The other JSB honestly reminds me of that Ninja troll. Same writing style anyway.

And it doesn’t matter if I’m right about that. There was a time to assume good intentions from that account and to give it the benefit of the doubt. That time has obviously run out.

EDIT: if anyone rushes in to make accounts to defend that guy, like someone actually did last time, I’d take it as proof of a coordinated trolling campaign. You should too.

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Old 01-17-2022, 05:27 PM   #7
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Put the stalker on your "ignore user" list...

It doesn't solve the issue, but at least you don't have to see his ramblings.


Perhaps more should use the report button?
 
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Old 01-17-2022, 10:22 PM   #8
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Put the stalker on your "ignore user" list...

It doesn't solve the issue, but at least you don't have to see his ramblings.

Perhaps more should use the report button?
While I could say a lot more... I think dugan has said it the best above and I agree with their comments entirely (although, and that said, it was patently obvious to me from day one the reason why said account(s) was/were created, and that wasn't for any legitimate reasons to say the very least).

The ball is now firmly in Jeremy's court, so I can only hope he'll hopefully provide a far better response than he has to date (if he provides any at all of course...).

I have no further comments to make about the matter beyond what has already been said.

PS: Not trying to be rude to you, but it's once again patently obvious what's going on here - which is exactly what I've been saying all along, from day one. That's it.
 
Old 01-18-2022, 08:37 AM   #9
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Put the stalker on your "ignore user" list...
Exactly!
 
Old 01-19-2022, 05:27 PM   #10
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The other JSB honestly reminds me of that Ninja troll. Same writing style anyway.
I'm actually fairly convinced it's him. Compare

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...0/#post6214989

To

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...8/#post5861517

Posting times are (fairly) consistent between the two accounts too. So the posters are probably in the same time zones.

Now, Jeremy has a day job at DataDog, so I assume that he's unusually qualified to look at the logs and IPs. Therefore, I'd expect him to take into account the certainty (brought up many times by multiple posters) that the troll is taking active measures to manipulate the appearance of his IP.

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Old 01-20-2022, 03:03 AM   #11
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While I wasn't planning on making anymore posts to this thread of mine...

I've been fairly convinced from day one that the coward/troll behind all of this either is a current member, or a former member that has been banned, given all I've seen to date.

If dugan is right, then I'm struggling to recall any particular run-in(s) I've had with the coward in question, who has posted in the second thread dugan has linked above. So if they're correct; I'd really like to know why that particular "person" has singled myself out.

In any case, I think the only decent thing Jeremy can do at this point is to fix this... which means doing exactly what he should have done several months ago now at the very least and *ban* the account in question. I'd also say that, I think I have a strong case to request that Jeremy completely remove the infraction I received from himself for this post, and particularly the 22 infraction points associated with that same infraction.

I guess Jeremy will just have to see what he can reasonably do in regards to one manipulating the appearance of their IP address. And obviously if they use something like Tor, well you're likely to get a different "circuit" each time, and therefore LQ's servers would see a different IP each time - so not sure what Jeremy can reasonably do about that. But that said, I'll freely admit my networking knowledge isn't something I'd call "expert", all of that said.

So I guess we'll see...
 
Old 01-20-2022, 09:43 AM   #12
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"JSB" reappeared recently, just after you did, to specifically reply to you after being offline since September. So, you reappear after several months then "JSB" reappears specifically to reply to you.

Yes, it's very obvious what's going on, but the main problem here is that you get riled up and make threads like this - which are troll fuel. You're providing what he wants. This would be better as private messaging / email directly to Jeremy.

If he gets banned, he'll most likely just come back with another account for some more sport. In fact, it's likely that he already has another account, or accounts, here anyway.
I often look at linuxquestion forum but do no lock in. Only when I see jsbjsb come back, I lock in. I think we had make piece, but I was wrong. sorry. I want learn more linux, please dont ban.
 
Old 01-20-2022, 10:17 AM   #13
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I often look at linuxquestion forum but do no lock in. Only when I see jsbjsb come back, I lock in. I think we had make piece, but I was wrong. sorry. I want learn more linux, please dont ban.
This seems like you're admitting to following/stalking jsbjsb001...you claim to look at the site often, but only decide to log in AFTER you see a particular person come back??? Why??

If you genuinely wanted to learn and contribute, the presence of a particular user wouldn't have anything to do with you participating.
 
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:50 AM   #14
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As far as I can tell, you're calling the person a stalker because they reply to your messages sometimes, on this one and only forum. Seems pretty ridiculous to me, but regardless, just set JSB to ignore and quit wasting your time writing long posts about it. Obviously his messages bother you, so stop reading them! Don't give him another thought! If the user ever actually posts anything naughty after you've set him to ignore, just trust that others will report it, but at least you won't have to deal with it and get your knickers so twisted!

If this has been bothering you for over a year, I'm surprised you didn't think of this earlier. It is your own fault to continue to let yourself get upset over this when you could have hidden it. Alternatively, [removed].

Last edited by jeremy; 01-21-2022 at 09:03 AM. Reason: removed personal attack
 
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JSB, if you're found to be purposefully following other members or creating puppet accounts you will be banned (and those accounts removed)
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I often look at linuxquestion forum but do no lock in. Only when I see jsbjsb come back, I lock in.
Well. We have a confession from the stalker's own words. What are we going to do about it?

Pointing out that we should put this, uh, account on ignore is valid and good, but an account that everyone is expected to put on ignore should obviously be gotten rid of.
 
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