WiFi problem

Oliems · 11-26-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ardvark71

Hi Oliems...

Just as a thought, you may need to consider moving to another distribution if you want and are unable to get the wireless working. Ubuntu and Linux Mint, as an example, make this process a lot simpler for Broadcom chips.

Regards...

I know, in fact I had Ubuntu but I decided to try Dragora. If I can't get the WiFi working maybe I'll go back to Ubuntu but I really enjoy Dragora so far even without the WiFi

Oliems · 11-26-2016, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Emerson

Yea there is deb2tgz and deb2targz, once it is a regular tgz you can repack it to tlz.

Good to know thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.

Ztcoracat · 11-26-2016, 06:03 PM

Here's the script for deb2tgz if you want to give it a go.
https://github.com/jbarrett/deb2tgz/...ster/deb2targz

I downloaded that driver that you linked in post #4.
It's already a .tgz so repacking it (I hope) .tlz will work for you.
I've never tried it.

Good Luck

Oliems · 11-27-2016, 04:24 AM

I don't know how to convert a package extension into another one. Do you have any hint on how to do it ?

I've discovered that I have another laptop running Ubuntu with the exact same WiFi card an the WiFi works fine on this one, is there a way that I can copy the WiFi card drivers from the Ubuntu drivers folder to my Dragora drivers folder ?

Is there a way to disable that awful sound that plays whenever I hit the delete key (and for some other occasions too). Even if the sound is mute it plays anyway.

Ztcoracat · 11-28-2016, 04:32 PM

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I don't know how to convert a package extension into another one. Do you have any hint on how to do it ?

I don't know. Maybe Emerson knows.

Ztcoracat · 11-28-2016, 04:37 PM

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is there a way that I can copy the WiFi card drivers from the Ubuntu drivers folder to my Dragora drivers folder ?

I'm not sure if that would work.
AFAIK a driver has to be installed.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...Driver/bcm43xx

Emerson · 11-28-2016, 04:55 PM

Kernel modules aka drivers generally do not work with kernel they are not compiled for. There are exceptions, but nothing to rely on.

Regarding targz to tlz conversion, unpacking the archive into a temporary directory and repacking it with lzip is as simple as it sounds. Unless Dragora has something special about those tlz archives. In that case I'd unpack one of them and see what's inside.

Oliems · 11-29-2016, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Emerson

Kernel modules aka drivers generally do not work with kernel they are not compiled for. There are exceptions, but nothing to rely on.

Regarding targz to tlz conversion, unpacking the archive into a temporary directory and repacking it with lzip is as simple as it sounds. Unless Dragora has something special about those tlz archives. In that case I'd unpack one of them and see what's inside.

I have unpacked the package and repacked it in .tlz, but then I tried to install it but all it does is creating a file named after the package in /var/db/pkg containing the following code :

Code:

Makefile
lib
lib/wlc_hybrid.o_shipped
lib/LICENSE.txt
src
src/wl
src/wl/sys
src/wl/sys/wlc_key.h
src/wl/sys/wl_cfg80211_hybrid.c
src/wl/sys/wlc_utils.h
src/wl/sys/wlc_ethereal.h
src/wl/sys/wl_cfg80211_hybrid.h
src/wl/sys/wl_iw.c
src/wl/sys/wl_iw.h
src/wl/sys/wl_export.h
src/wl/sys/wlc_pub.h
src/wl/sys/wl_dbg.h
src/wl/sys/wlc_types.h
src/wl/sys/wl_linux.h
src/wl/sys/wl_linux.c
src/wl/sys/wlc_wowl.h
src/include
src/include/linux_osl.h
src/include/typedefs.h
src/include/siutils.h
src/include/bcmendian.h
src/include/epivers.h
src/include/packed_section_start.h
src/include/linuxver.h
src/include/pcicfg.h
src/include/packed_section_end.h
src/include/bcmcrypto
src/include/bcmcrypto/tkhash.h
src/include/wlioctl.h
src/include/bcmutils.h
src/include/osl.h
src/include/bcmdefs.h
src/common
src/common/include
src/common/include/proto
src/common/include/proto/bcmeth.h
src/common/include/proto/bcmevent.h
src/common/include/proto/wpa.h
src/common/include/proto/802.11.h
src/common/include/proto/ieee80211_radiotap.h
src/common/include/proto/bcmip.h
src/common/include/proto/802.1d.h
src/common/include/proto/ethernet.h
src/shared
src/shared/bcmwifi
src/shared/bcmwifi/include
src/shared/bcmwifi/include/bcmwifi_rates.h
src/shared/bcmwifi/include/bcmwifi_channels.h
src/shared/linux_osl.c
driver64.tlz

Ztcoracat · 11-29-2016, 06:35 PM

Did you unpack it into a /tmp directory?

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all it does is creating a file named after the package in /var/db/pkg containing the following code :

CD to that directory and try running 'make' (the driver is in that file:'driver64.tlz')

Oliems · 11-30-2016, 03:50 AM

I tried to unpack it in /tmp but the problem is the same. When I do "pkg add driver64.tlz", it creates the /var/db/pkg/driver64 shown above but also all the files listed above and a copy of driver64.tlz and a Makefile in the ~ directory but that's it.

Ztcoracat · 12-01-2016, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliems

I tried to unpack it in /tmp but the problem is the same. When I do "pkg add driver64.tlz", it creates the /var/db/pkg/driver64 shown above but also all the files listed above and a copy of driver64.tlz and a Makefile in the ~ directory but that's it.

It sounds like you have it repacked now like Emerson said to do.
The next step certainly seems like installing the driver64.tlz package is all that's left to do.

I think what you need to do now is use what command-line utility Dragora uses and install that driver/module package. (I'd think)

Is that 'driver64.tlz' a package all by it'self now? Post a pic of that directory if you can.
(within the /var/db/pkg/driver64 directory)

Ztcoracat · 12-01-2016, 01:07 AM

I did some reading about Dragora's Package Management System. The main command of the package system is called 'pkg'.

I wasn't able to download the PMS of Dragora w/o setting up a facebook account. I'll be honest, I have nothing to do with Facebook.

Dragora's Package Management system doesn't offer dependency resolution which means in the future you will have to learn how to install dependent packages in their proper order before the final package or program that you want installed.If your going to go to this trouble you might as well IMO run Slackware.

However I respect that you like Dragora and are trying your best to work with this system that is new to you and trying to get this driver issue resolved.

If you want to continue to pursue running Dragora and work with this driver I suggest you read the distributions package management system pdf online.
https://www.scribd.com/document/1566...management-pdf

selkfoster · 12-01-2016, 01:22 PM

Hello Oliems,

This wireless card is not supported by Dragora or with any other libre distro. Dragora can only run and support (free software) compatible wireless cards. This card depends on proprietary firmware.
If you can get or bought a compatible WiFi card, for alternatives I suggest visiting:

http://h-node.com
http://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wirel...libre-tet-n150
http://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linu...ux-tpe-n150usb

P.S: The guide of the package manager for the version 2 can be found at dragora.org -> Dragora2 -> Package management

Oliems · 12-02-2016, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by selkfoster

This wireless card is not supported by Dragora or with any other libre distro. Dragora can only run and support (free software) compatible wireless cards. This card depends on proprietary firmware.

Does that mean I can't make my WiFi card work even if I have the correct proprietary driver ?

wpeckham · 12-02-2016, 05:05 AM

It means Dragora does not support that, and that there will be no official way. You can do almost anything with enough knowledge, time, and effort: it means this will not be easy.

It is a matter of philosophy. It is offensive that the vendor created hardware drivers and WILL NOT allow any source code of hardware specification out so that a free and open source driver can be developed. The hard-core FOSS community will not support that hardware, and I cannot blame them. Other distributions are willing to be a little less hard-core and find a compromise solution, blend some of the proprietary parts into their distribution to support the hardware (Canonical/Ubuntu for example).

The fastest way to solve your problem is to look for a different distribution: one very Dragora-like but that is more willing to compromise and comes with those drivers. The slow way is to look for instructions on capturing these specific proprietary Windows drivers, extracting the part you need, and creating a driver wrapper for it to make it run IN Dragora: a totally unsupported solution.

I have no advice, your decision will be driver by your personal philosophy and life factors. I do wish you luck no matter what you choose.