Novell: Vista will drive users to Linux

KimVette · 01-12-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by infiniphunk

Shag; not a very nice way to talk about your girlfriend in a public place

What's sad is that in Shag's profile, he claims to be 33, and yet his posts come across as a "7337" 14-yr-old kid.

raska · 01-12-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shag

...my stupid girlfriend, who had to buy the "proper"
media centre edition, idiot.

I hope you love her ROFLMAO

shag · 01-13-2006, 02:00 AM

I've also tried in vain to find a laptop without any os on it,
it would be fantastic if you could though,
as for KimVettes assessment, that I claim to be 33 ? I am 33.
Not everyone is hoighty toity, my profile also says that I'm an idiot.
I think I get taken a bit too seriously, when I was only mucking around.

Ruben2 · 01-13-2006, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shag

I've also tried in vain to find a laptop without any os on it,
it would be fantastic if you could though,

Well, I don't know how it is elsewhere but here (in The Netherlands) you can't even find normal pc's without an OS. You can only achief this by assembling your own pc (which is much cheaper anyway)

Ruben

raska · 01-13-2006, 10:58 AM

Yeah that's pretty much what people here at Mexico (not enterprises nor big companies) do, buy new or used computer pieces and put them together to assemble the machine on their own. Though, with a laptop (new or used) everyone is screwed up because it always come with windows pre-installed. I passed through that too, with my lil' Pavilion. I ... must admit it: Windows became useful once, I had to update the BIOS in order to run Slackware fine on it

now ... it's freed

Ruben2 · 01-13-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by raska

Yeah that's pretty much what people here at Mexico (not enterprises nor big companies) do, buy new or used computer pieces and put them together to assemble the machine on their own. Though, with a laptop (new or used) everyone is screwed up because it always come with windows pre-installed. I passed through that too, with my lil' Pavilion. I ... must admit it: Windows became useful once, I had to update the BIOS in order to run Slackware fine on it

now ... it's freed

Yeah, but it's pretty weird imho that you cannot assemble a laptop by just buying seperate pieces and put them together, you always have to buy the whole thing at once and it comes always with an OS.

Ruben

raska · 01-13-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruben2

imho that you cannot assemble a laptop by just buying seperate pieces and put them together, you always have to buy the whole thing at once and it comes always with an OS.

yeah, that's exactly what I tried to mean, on laptops you can't mess up with the hardware, you ought to buy them from the dealer and always come with windows pre-installed

Present · 01-16-2006, 08:17 PM

We used to upgrade hardware AND software every 2-3 years under MS. Since switching to linux, upgrades are seamless, patches are prompt, software is free (we dropped our last proprietary software Dec 31), and we have not needed to upgrade hardware since making the switch (almost 4 years).

Our small business only has 5 computers, but the savings in only 4 short years is easily over $10k. Imagine the effect on the bottom-line of a large corporation!

I think one company in particular needs to get the facts... ya, it's the one encouraging OTHER's to get the facts (as they bank-roll the "facts").

Yoda47 · 02-01-2006, 06:28 PM

I could see that happening. I'm mostly using Windows 2000 on my home computers and have been thinking about switching almost all of them entirly to Linux for a while now.

darkhatter · 02-03-2006, 02:03 PM

are we forgeting about redhat, and novell

I'm not sure what novell is doing, but redhat is going all over the world talking about linux.

someone get your tweezers, I think microcock is about to lose some loyal fans

wykthorr · 02-04-2006, 06:55 AM

Well look at the bright part. Microsoft is pushing itself out of the market

I was able to run 2002 - WindowsXP on a Dell LatitudeLS laptop (400 MHz PIII Coopermine /w 128 MB RAM). Now if think of it Vista will not work on any of the present high end laptops(or maybe it will work as hell on 2-3).

Let's say John Windows User bought a high end Dell Laptop and paid 2000$ for it. By the end of 2007 Vista will be released and he has heard that it's better. What will he do? Throw away his 2000$ Notebook and buy a new one just to run Vista on it? I think not. He will probably stick with Windows XP or he will switch to Novel Desktop Linux 10 that supports 90% of Vista's GUI features and works on existing hardware.

So there's the question: Who will use Windows Vista?

comptiger5000 · 02-04-2006, 06:59 AM

people with really high powered hardware

my XP laptop is:

Athlon 64 4000+
1 gb ram
ATI radeon xpress 200m graphics
80 gb hd

it'll run vista no problem
my friend ran vista beta 1 with similar specs, except his desktop has the A64 3500+ and nvidia 5600 graphics

wykthorr · 02-04-2006, 09:37 AM

Well your laptop is preety powerfull. You say that your friend ran Vista on a desktop. Well what about harddrive speed. As far as I know notebooks still have 5400 rpm HDDs. Since you only have 1GB of memory I think you would need some swap(it depends on what you whant to do with it).

And here comes the other question: Would you run the bloated Vista and watch your powerfull laptop runing like hell or use Novell Desktop Linux 10 (I talk about this version because it has a lot of Vista's features) and get the juice out of your laptop?

schneemann · 02-11-2006, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kc3387

I totally agree with you geeman2.0 the typical user is usually not knowledgable enough to install windows 2000. I've had my experience in that. I've had so many people tell me that windows is the best. Problem is half of them dont know what linux is, and the other half that do are afraid of having to install it. Dont get me wrong I think the Anaconda installer is actually quite simple and the graphical install makes it look better, but most people dont know what linux is and with that they're going to buy new computers just so they can get windows vista. Computers these days are obsolete with in 5 years anyways and with Vista installed on new computers I dont see linux stopping Microsoft, even though the prices will get ridiculous. Even if Vista ended up being buggier than 98 I dont think its Linux's time to break out into homes all over the globe. That day is coming though, but who knows how long it will take.

I agree to what geeman2.0 and I`m using before mandriva but a friend told me go for Suse and I did.
But you know I`m very happy that I use now suse and I tell every one to.
You will see in the future that more and more people will switch to linux.
One day I will support suse if I know as much like winXp.I`m using right now the free suse distro.

Viva live SUSE

Schneemann

Mikesoft · 02-13-2006, 04:16 AM

Those vista requirements suck! I have a amd 64 3200 @ 2.4ghz, 1gb ram, 128mb asus 6800nu and that still won't run vista properly and I only upgraded 2 months ago! Once my addiction to pc gaming has worn off I will NEVER use windows again!